Remembering their faces
By Malka Eisenberg
Issue of July 24, 2009 / 3 Av 5769
One man recounted how the inmates of the Westerbrook concentration camp secretly baked matzo for Passover. Another survivor was among the 1800 Jews traded for tanks by the Germans. And one woman proudly told her story of how she smuggled gunpowder to help blow up a crematorium in Auschwitz.
Their stories and others were recorded by students in Central and MTA as part of “Names, Not Numbers,” an ongoing multimedia project to preserve the oral histories of Holocaust survivors. The program has proven to be a powerful event for the participating students.
“Just sitting across from a survivor and looking in their eyes, [and] knowing they saw what happened is a life-changing experience,” said Rebecca Ringelheim, one of the Central seniors who participated in the program. “I would recommend one hundred percent that anyone who can, should do it.”
Tova Fish-Rosenberg, a Jewish educator and recipient of the Baumel Award for Excellence in Jewish Studies, created “Names, Not Numbers” six years ago. It has been produced every year since its inception as a senior thesis in the Yeshiva University High Schools and in schools across the country. The program involves teaching about the Holocaust through a framework of oral history filming.
“The students are trained by professionals how to interview for an oral history and how to make a documentary,” explained Rosenberg.
Termed “an Intergenerational Holocaust Curriculum Project,” groups of two or three students receive a biography of their subject, either a survivor or a Liat Brody of Great Neck and Devorah Hoffman of Staten Island interviewed psychologist Dr. Leon Gersten of Cedarhurst, a Holocaust survivor saved by non-Jews who hid him for two years during the war, as part of the “Names, Not Numbers,” program at Central (Yeshiva University High School for Girls). Liat Brody of Great Neck and Devorah Hoffman of Staten Island interviewed psychologist Dr. Leon Gersten of Cedarhurst, a Holocaust survivor saved by non-Jews who hid him for two years during the war, as part of the “Names, Not Numbers,” program at Central (Yeshiva University High School for Girls). World War II veteran, research all facets of their subject with help from a website set up by Rosenberg, and augment their research with trips to the Museum of Jewish Heritage. Students learn recording, filming and editing techniques, as well as how to interact with interviewees. They then interview their subjects face-to-face, preserving, often for the first time, their personal history.
The one-hour videotaped interview filmed by each team of students is edited into a fifteen minute format and combined with others into a “Names, Not Numbers” documentary DVD. The documentary director also films the entire process from instructional classes and information sessions to the final interview and editing to create a second film, “Names, Not Numbers: A Movie in the Making.” This documentary is shown at a dinner with the students, interviewees and invited guests at the completion of the program.
Thirteen movies have been produced so far featuring 56 survivors and World War II veterans being interviewed by 140 Yeshiva University High School students. The films have been shown in synagogues and camps as part of Yom Hashoah and Tisha b’Av commemorations. “Names, Not Numbers: A Movie in the Making @ Central” will be shown on Tisha b’Av this year at Congregation Anshei Chesed of Hewlett, Young Israel of Jamaica Estates in Queens, Congregation Ohr Torah in North Woodmere, Young Israel of Plainview, andat Camp Moshava in Canada.
Rosenberg pointed out that students at Central added a “twist,” a different view, to the Holocaust experience. This year, they interviewed Dr. Norman Lamm, Chancelor of Yeshiva University, about his role in producing ammunition for Israel during the 1948 War of Independence, as a chemistry major at YU. Another part of this year’s “twist” was an interview with twin German brothers studying medicine at Yale University Medical School whose grandfathers were in the Hitler Youth and the German army during the war.
Rebecca Honig of Lawrence, another Central student, chose to participate in the program because, “I thought that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. The survivors are dying out and we have to seize the opportunity.”
She said that as a result of her involvement in “Names, Not Numbers” she “values life more.”
Her subject survived a labor camp, a concentration camp and a death march.
“Everything terrible that can happen to a person happened to him,” she said. “The most inspiring thing is how happy he seems regardless of what happened to him. He built an entire life for himself and pushed on.”
“It’s one thing to sit and learn about the Holocaust in a classroom,” she emphasized. “It’s another to sit and hear it first hand. It changes how you think about it, your view of the Holocaust. You feel a lot more connected to it.”
“It strengthened my view about life,” wrote Liat Brody, another Central graduate, in an email. “Life is G-d’s gift; it is precious. We should try to do our best during this lifetime, because life on earth is limited.”


‘Names, Not Numbers’: Listening to the Stories Told by Holocaust Survivors By Alex Weisler
August 12, 2009
Tova Rosenberg knows about stories.
Sitting in her Yeshiva University office in New York City’s Washington Heights, the creator of the Holocaust education project “Names, Not Numbers” recounted a student’s interview with the son of a Holocaust survivor.
The son recalled asking his father, “Why do you survivors have all these stories?”
And the father responded, “Because of our stories, we survived.”
That principle guides Rosenberg’s yearlong intergenerational Holocaust oral history project — an innovative approach that trains Orthodox Jewish day school students in the art of obtaining the stories from survivors and others who have had wartime experiences. The students also edit a feature-length documentary film.
The project began five years ago when Rosenberg received a grant to develop intergenerational education as the principal of a Jewish day school. The program has become a cornerstone of the senior year experience at Y.U.’s boys’ and girls’ high schools in New York. Students in Baltimore; Houston; Memphis, Tenn., and Allentown, Pa., also participate in the program annually.
In addition to her “Names, Not Numbers” role, Rosenberg serves as director of the Hebrew-language program at Yeshiva University High School for Boys.
“I was looking for a way to personalize the numbers and to have the intergenerational connections,” Rosenberg said. The numbers of Jews killed in World War II — 6 million — is too impersonal for students to understand, she said.
“I felt that the way students could learn that would leave the lasting impact on them, really touch their hearts and souls, would be to learn from the survivors themselves firsthand, testimonials,” Rosenberg said.
The program spends a year training students in almost every aspect of documentary filmmaking. Students receive lessons in journalism techniques — this year from New York Times reporter and editor Joseph Berger and New York Jewish Week editor Gary Rosenblatt.
The project’s film director, Eric Spaar, shows the group how to operate video equipment, and high school history teachers help the students conduct research and draft interview questions.
And when it comes time to film the hour-long oral history interview, the students are prepared, Rosenberg said.
“It’s fairly intense,” student David Leshaw, 18, of Teaneck, N.J., said of the experience. “We are the last generation that will really get to interact with the generation that experienced it.”
Students produce two films each year — a straightforward collection of 15-minute interviews, and a more esoteric “movie-in-the-making project” that includes testimony from interviewees but spends most of its time tracking the “Names, Not Numbers” students through the process of Holocaust education and documentary filmmaking.
In addition to interviewing survivors, the program tries to feature other Holocaust elements — the experiences of WWII liberators or American Jews, for instance — to enrich the educational experience, Rosenberg said.
The National Library of Israel in Jerusalem wants to archive the 13 documentaries the program has produced so far and also wants to house the project’s future films. Rosenberg said this was unusual because the library ordinarily does not accept curriculum-based pieces.
Rosenberg said her program prides itself on illuminating forgotten or unfamiliar Holocaust stories — for example, a woman who helped smuggle ammunition to the 300 men who blew up an Auschwitz crematorium and a child who had to relearn how to walk after being concealed in a box for eight months.
The project veered into uncharted waters this year when the girls’ high school students interviewed two German medical students who grew up with grandparents who had been involved in Nazi war activities.
For Ruth Gruener, a survivor who had been hidden as a child, hearing the Germans — twin brothers Klaus and Max Stahl — speak about their experiences was the most powerful part of a project.
“For children, to see people speak, living people, makes a more lasting impression than just to read a book,” she said. “With all the Holocaust deniers and a lot of German people trying… not to be associated with it because of guilt, to have these people speak up, means a lot,” she said.
Before heading back to Germany in October, the twins will speak to students at the boys’ school and will revisit the girls’ school.
Rebecca Honig, 18, a student at Yeshiva University Girls’ High School, said that sitting for a full hour across the table from a survivor brought a new depth to her Holocaust research.
“The Holocaust — it’s not one story, it’s millions of individual stories,” Honig said. “I feel really blessed I was able to hear one of them.”
Rosenberg said that “Names, Not Numbers” is about recognizing the unique connection that can be established when students are made to look into the eyes of those who have seen the worst the world has to offer.
“There’s nothing like having them sit for one hour across from a survivor and being able to ask that survivor any question they want to ask,” she said. “They understand that these survivors [were] the same age that they are, with 60 years in between them.”